tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7498388463767378455.post3004535527669727644..comments2023-10-31T05:14:08.945+13:00Comments on Undeniably Atheist: Atheism: The Null HypothesisUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7498388463767378455.post-86188113830196367472021-08-02T08:20:19.812+12:002021-08-02T08:20:19.812+12:00uh what, science work by disproving things? how d...uh what, science work by disproving things? how did you come up with that? Science is about what we can observe, measure test and then make predictions base on what we have observed, measured and tested. Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16431158855388917144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7498388463767378455.post-47647460976602383272013-03-22T08:50:35.794+13:002013-03-22T08:50:35.794+13:00In science the null hypothesis is always the negat...In science the null hypothesis is always the negation of the positive. For example if the hypothesis was that there was some effect on B by A being present, the null hypothesis would be that would be no effect. I am finding it very difficult to imagine a scenario right now where a some correlation would be the null and the negation would be the hypothesis being tested, as that's not how science works. Science doesn't work by proving things, it works by disproving things.KJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817974804323066290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7498388463767378455.post-89910763841391946732013-03-22T02:14:04.770+13:002013-03-22T02:14:04.770+13:00How would you counter an argument that said it was...How would you counter an argument that said it was just as valid to say that atheism is a hypothesis and theism is therefore the null hypothesis? Is there any scientific or philosophical law you could refer to that said that that was not the case?<br /><br />I find the situation I have described hard to argue against. Is the positive position always the hypothesis and the negative position always the null hypothesis?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16984489999757197404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7498388463767378455.post-81055657691948024682011-10-05T17:59:11.327+13:002011-10-05T17:59:11.327+13:00Thanks for stopping by Jim!
I probably should hav...Thanks for stopping by Jim!<br /><br />I probably should have stated, but the god concept I was thinking of while writing my blog post is not the God of Christianity, nor one with any specifically defined attributes, just a general god concept. Perhaps one that could be associated with deism or panentheism, just some amorphous transcendental first cause.<br /><br />I didn't find anything I disagreed with on your definitions of atheism post and I do think that logically contradictory god-hypotheses are disprovable.<br /><br />You've definitely given me some things to think about though, thanks again.KJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817974804323066290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7498388463767378455.post-26361335898717335792011-10-05T17:31:11.533+13:002011-10-05T17:31:11.533+13:00I agree that atheism is not (necessarily) a claim ...I agree that atheism is not (necessarily) a claim to *knowledge* of the nonexistence of gods, or a claim to omniscience. But I'm not sure on what grounds you argue that a proof or logical deductive argument to the conclusion of gods' nonexistence is not possible--examples can be found in Richard M. Gale's _On the Nature and Existence of God_ and in Michael Martin's _Atheism: A Philosophical Justification_, for example. Do you also hold that evidential arguments to the conclusion that gods do not exist is also impossible? If so, on what grounds? Also see Jeff Lowder's "Is a Sound Argument for the Nonexistence of a God Even Possible?": http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/ipnegep.html<br /><br />I'm also not in agreement that atheism is not itself a claim or position that requires justification or is automatically favored by a burden of proof argument. I give some reasons here: http://lippard.blogspot.com/2010/01/definitions-of-atheism-and-agnosticism.htmlLippardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16826768452963498005noreply@blogger.com